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BY KURT HANSON
In yesterday's issue of RAIN (here),
we reported on the launch of a new, 950-station Internet-only
operation
called FMCities.com
by San Francisco-based Canadian-American entrepreneur Tim Martz
(pictured, left).
Yesterday afternoon, Tim talked with RAIN and explained
the origin of this business venture, his business model, and his
future plans for his new "broadcast group."
Martz holds joint U.S.-Canadian citizenship, attended Northwestern
University's Kellogg MBA program in Chicago, and for 15 years his
Martz Communications Group has owned radio station clusters in Michigan,
Maine, Wisconsin, and New York state.
"About a year ago," he explained, "I went
to the NAB in Orlando and the Radio Ink conference in Santa Clara
to work on our stations' web presence" -- Martz owns a nine-station
group in upstate New York along the Canadian border -- "because
we really didn't have
one.
"Like a lot of people, I went with some trepidation
-- seeing the Internet as more of a threat than an opportunity.
But I developed some contacts, including the First
Internet people who've designed the FMCities.com websites,
and I eventually saw it as an opportunity to be seized -- both for
my own stations and for this new venture."
The launch that Martz announced yesterday involves offering
50 channels of Everstream music in each of 19 different markets.
"Let me tell you where we're headed in the next six
months," Martz offered.
"It's a phased roll-out. Soon we'll be adding on-demand
audio -- news, weather, traffic, and sports -- in each market. We'll
be adding local band channels in various markets in late September."
Currently, the only localization
that Martz adds to the basic Everstream audio product is sweepers
and liners. However, he says, "By October or November, we'll
be adding brief weather and traffic snippets, to give more of a
traditional radio feel."
Initially, all of that localization will be added from Martz's
current facilities in New York and Ontario and Everstream's facility
in Cleveland, but "once we have achieved a critical mass, I
see offices, studios, and staff in every city," Martz says.
What's the business model?
I asked Martz if he would be willing to give RAIN
readers a glimpse of his business model.
In terms of who will sell his spots,
Martz said, "We're working on that." Everstream has already
partnered with Katz
Interactive for national spots, and Martz says he's looking
at possibly partnering with local content providers -- e.g., a TV
station -- in each market that could conceivably handle local sales.
"Since visuals and animations and click-through capabilities
will accompany every spot," he noted, "the CPMs we can
get should be significantly higher
than traditional radio."
Small AQHs add up
Martz's FMCanada.com
actually launched in Canada's seven
biggest markets earlier this summer. I asked Martz
if he was willing to discuss its current audience sizes, and he
was refreshingly candid:
"So far, it's been a three-week rollout, and we've been
growing all the time. Right now we've got an AQH of around 200 in
the aggregate. It's a small number, but it's only going to grow.
"If I can be in 50 cities by
the end of October with an AQH of 100 in each market, which I think
is reasonable based on what we're seeing in Canada, I'll have an
AQH of 5,000 for the whole company. So if I can sell it at a $30
or $40 a thousand... Hell, I'll take a couple hundred bucks a spot!
"If I can run four or six of those an hour, then it
starts to become attractive in terms of the revenue stream. And
if the audience grows from 5, to 10 to 50 thousand, that's where
it starts to become a very attractive, very profitable business."
To experience one of Martz's sites for yourself, visit FMCities.com
here.
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I've taken a lot of heat from some RAIN readers for
pointing out the actual AQH audience sizes of webcasts. (Those
audiences are currently small compared to those of terrestrial
stations. See chart here.)
But Martz understands:
Even if he has an AQH of only a few dozen listeners at a time
in a given city right now, that's nonetheless an audience that
could soon be worth having.
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From Upside
Today: "Yahoo
announced a landmark deal with the Recording
Industry Association of America today (9/6), saying the
two sides have come to terms on how much Yahoo will pay record companies
to webcast copyrighted tunes...
"While it negotiated a music royalty on its own, Yahoo
is offici ally
a member of a broad coalition of dotcoms known as the Digital
Media Association, which has been conducting its own talks
with the record labels...

"Most recently, members of the group have been plotting
how to approach binding arbitration with the record industry, a
process that will begin in about a month and a half. The two sides
will argue over how much online companies should have to pay the
record industry for songs played during radio-style webcasts. The
rate is set by a government-appointed panel under
the 1998 Digital Millennium Copyright Act.
"Online firms have said they want to pay a
few percentage points of their gross revenues, while
the record companies are believed to want as much as 15
percent of gross revenues. (Neither side will comment
officially.)
"But Yahoo has been conspicuously absent from the strategizing,
according to DiMA Executive Director Jon Potter, who says
that Yahoo is the 'only DiMA member over the course of the last
two years that has not worked with other members on' discussions
about how to handle
licensing disputes with the record industry...
"At the same time, Potter concedes that Yahoo has a
'very different business model' compared with other DiMA members
-- a difference Yahoo execs insist is key to understanding their
decision to pursue a bilateral deal..."
Read the full story in Upside Today here.
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"They
don't realize that they...just gave away millions in revenue..."
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Kurt: We
love your site and visit twice daily for the am and pm updates.
It's extremely disheartening to see that Yahoo has headed
down their own path. Perhaps since there obviously isn't a broadcaster
in the building at Yahoo, they don't realize that they just sold
out and gave away millions of revenue to the RIAA.
Based on the fact that every song played and title displayed
is an average 4.5 minute commercial for sales of that title, you
can see the angle I'm looking at this situation from. Yahoo and
the RIAA must not realize that it takes exposure on radio...be it
over-the-air, cable, or internet...to get the word out and help
create a buzz on their artist releases, regardless if it's a new
"baby band" or an established artist. Do any other media pay the
advertiser to run their ads?
Another factor is that with sufficient station reach, at
least now in over-the-air radio, is that the promotion departments
of these very same RIAA labels will *pay* to have their music
played.
Yahoo definitely missed the boat on this one. I can only
hope that the rest of us who know who and what actually sells music
through exposure can stay the course.
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Tracy
Barnes
President
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Earlier this week, we wrote about the excellent audio quality
at a low bitrate (due to good audio processing?) of London
Unlimited, about RAIN's Summer interns' "class
project" to build an Internet-only station, and about Tim Martz's
FMCities.com venture.
RAIN readers commented...
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"This
ain't radio and it ain't local..."
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Just a minute. Let's check the math.
If you launch the same 50 stations 19 times, how does that qualify
as 950 stations? There is no local content. Zero. Zip. Nada. (Nor
is there any original content. The so-called "News," "Weather" and
"Traffic" are nothing but Internet links--no audio and nothing proprietary.)
This ain't radio and it ain't local. It's just another dull, boring
Internet jukebox. 50 channels of nothing worth listening to.
Launch them 1,000 times, call it 50,000 stations and it's
still crap.
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Jack
Messmer
Executive Editor
Radio Business Report |
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"We
have been playing by the rules..."
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Hello, Kurt. Long time, no correspondance.
We are aggressively hammering out deals with ISPs to supply
them with our DMCA-compliant streaming technology
and RIAA-accepted reporting technology so today's article on FMcities.com
raised my eyebrow.
It is our understanding through our conversations with the
RIAA attorneys in the past that allowing "pause" and "skip" functionality
is a violation of the DMCA. Do you know if this has changed? If
not, how are stations like these allowed to offer these functionalities
without reprecussions? Do you think the RIAA will soon go after
all the webcasters who do not possess and RIAA license and pay royalities?
If not, we have been playing by the rules and paying royalties
for over a year, all for nothing.
Thank you kindly, O' wise man.
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Dale R. Smith
V.P. of Operations
Cablemusic Networks, Inc. |
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"Three
of the functions you mentioned are prohibitied..."
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Hi, Kurt. If you are doing a follow-up interview, you might
want to focus on the fact that three of the functions you mentioned
are prohibited under the DMCA.
This is probably as much a problem for Everstream as it is for FMcities.com
(and the other Everstream affiliates). The functions in question are:
-- "Pause a song" for a minute or an hour and resume at the note you
left,
-- "Next selection" tells you what artist is up next,
-- "Skip to the next song" lets you jump immediately to hear the next
song,
Even if Everstream signed an agreement with RIAA (which I do
not think they did), such an agreement would not grant them the interactive
functions as stated above. Those can only be granted by the record
labels directly. I do not believe that Everstream has negotiated for
those licenses.
I think this is an interesting aspect for your readers, in
light of the record labels legal activities to protect their rights
under the DMCA. I know that I would be interested in reading how EverStream
and FMcities.com have been able to maneuver around the existing laws.
Perhaps they know something we don't?
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"Usually
the processing is done in the middle..."
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Usually the processing is done in the middle...the audio
is played on whatever system they use, into the limiting/compression
gear, then out to the encoders....it's still the same
as terrestrial, just encoders instead of transmitters...
As a former martz communication employee (built WCRQ for
tim, among other things), hats off to tim on his joining the net.
a lot reside on the lesser used .net extension...oh, and the availability
of the next title, as well as the ability to skip to it, violate
the DMCA...
Keep it up kurt, we check every day, and sometimes more than
once, to catch the latest from you!...and good luck to the interns,
i hope they know just how valuable their time there is!
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ed
st.james
ceo
thebroadcastweb.com network, inc.
a subsidiary of International Internet (OTCBB:IINN) |
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"I
think you idea to set up a RAIN station is right on track..."
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Hi, Kurt. I think your idea to set up a RAIN station is
right on track. I like the proposed content and agree that it will
fill a vacant gap for my listening which, as you correctly say,
takes place mostly in my office. Incidentally, I also like the California
Rock Weekend format. Thanks by the way for introducing me to the
most enjoyable waby.com which I have added to my list of favourites.
Keep up the good work. I really look forward to receiving your
excellent information.
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Steve
Grbic
Director
Core Commuunications
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